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	<title>Comments on: The Costs of War</title>
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	<description>Reflections on faith and life by Jay Voorhees</description>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 03:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can see how they are giving them the shaft, and totally disagree with it.  Typically a letter of reprimand is given to officers (career ender), and enlisted are given article 15s when there is a sticky situation where they try to punish, but there might be little foundation to the charges (not always a career ender, etc).  I did not see the series, but if it went on for a while and the Army did not request it be stopped from airing, someone else could be also in trouble.  The CYA concept occurs in all careers, and hopefully others learn to gather documents supporting their permission to be filmed.  I recorded my own videos during OIF, but keep them to myself or close friends.  Opsec (Operational Security) is the worry, so if the film showed common routes, times, tactics, etc, this could be why the chain of command viewed it, and saw where it could (and likely is) being used for inteligence by the enemy.  They have the internet and can get many tv channels.  I hope they do not get a general discharge because that is the same as others who have intentionally offended, etc.  There should be a fair appeal process that hopefully they can win.  Definite unfair cost of war...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see how they are giving them the shaft, and totally disagree with it.  Typically a letter of reprimand is given to officers (career ender), and enlisted are given article 15s when there is a sticky situation where they try to punish, but there might be little foundation to the charges (not always a career ender, etc).  I did not see the series, but if it went on for a while and the Army did not request it be stopped from airing, someone else could be also in trouble.  The CYA concept occurs in all careers, and hopefully others learn to gather documents supporting their permission to be filmed.  I recorded my own videos during OIF, but keep them to myself or close friends.  Opsec (Operational Security) is the worry, so if the film showed common routes, times, tactics, etc, this could be why the chain of command viewed it, and saw where it could (and likely is) being used for inteligence by the enemy.  They have the internet and can get many tv channels.  I hope they do not get a general discharge because that is the same as others who have intentionally offended, etc.  There should be a fair appeal process that hopefully they can win.  Definite unfair cost of war&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: fraydna52</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 12:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From &quot;Judge Your Neighbor&quot;:

&quot;Is this true? Can you absolutely know that it is true? 
How do you react when you believe these thoughts?
Who would you be without these thoughts?&quot;

http://www.thework.com/thework.asp

P.S. It&#039;s &quot;affects&quot;, not  &quot;effects&quot; in your last paragraph.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From &#8220;Judge Your Neighbor&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8220;Is this true? Can you absolutely know that it is true?<br />
How do you react when you believe these thoughts?<br />
Who would you be without these thoughts?&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thework.com/thework.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.thework.com/thework.asp</a></p>
<p>P.S. It&#8217;s &#8220;affects&#8221;, not  &#8220;effects&#8221; in your last paragraph.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Mitchell</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 07:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post about the cost of war - to me this  is another example of how we have changed the definition of  patriotism and the meaning of war.

We are not allow to criticize the military or the administration and when we do, we are accused of being against our troops.  We need to support our troops and give them the support that they need so that they can speak out.  The Pentagon would probably tell us that there is a need for the chain of command to be maintained in order to maintain discipline.  But if the chain of command is not listening to the troops, the troops have to know that they can speak out when things are not right.

Blind obedience to authority is not patriotism but the mark of a culture that is losing its freedom.

We have seen with repeated stories about the lack of support for veteran&#039;s care that we no longer care what happens to our troops.  We send them off to fight and then we forget them.  If they come home, we just want them to fade away.

Let us make sure that no veteran is forgotten and that this weekend is directed towards remembering why many die.

Let us work to make sure that no death or injury is for reasons unknown or forgotten.

Let us work to make sure that each individual trooper knows that they are important and that our leaders know that they cannot see them as simply pawns in some game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post about the cost of war &#8211; to me this  is another example of how we have changed the definition of  patriotism and the meaning of war.</p>
<p>We are not allow to criticize the military or the administration and when we do, we are accused of being against our troops.  We need to support our troops and give them the support that they need so that they can speak out.  The Pentagon would probably tell us that there is a need for the chain of command to be maintained in order to maintain discipline.  But if the chain of command is not listening to the troops, the troops have to know that they can speak out when things are not right.</p>
<p>Blind obedience to authority is not patriotism but the mark of a culture that is losing its freedom.</p>
<p>We have seen with repeated stories about the lack of support for veteran&#8217;s care that we no longer care what happens to our troops.  We send them off to fight and then we forget them.  If they come home, we just want them to fade away.</p>
<p>Let us make sure that no veteran is forgotten and that this weekend is directed towards remembering why many die.</p>
<p>Let us work to make sure that no death or injury is for reasons unknown or forgotten.</p>
<p>Let us work to make sure that each individual trooper knows that they are important and that our leaders know that they cannot see them as simply pawns in some game.</p>
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